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		By: Bob		</title>
		<link>https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2591</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2026 03:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;3 Hectors&quot; in Timecrimes is an example of Time Travel Cloning. You go back in time and interact with yourself to cause you to be split.  But Time Travel Cloning is complicated. But the question is, why in this movie does events seemed to be fixed? What happens to Infinite Hectors? Why did Hector Prime meet himself to trigger the loop if he was original? The Timeloop caused itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;3 Hectors&#8221; in Timecrimes is an example of Time Travel Cloning. You go back in time and interact with yourself to cause you to be split.  But Time Travel Cloning is complicated. But the question is, why in this movie does events seemed to be fixed? What happens to Infinite Hectors? Why did Hector Prime meet himself to trigger the loop if he was original? The Timeloop caused itself.</p>
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		By: Eli		</title>
		<link>https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2583</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2025 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The movie was interesting. But it&#039;s &quot;Triangle&quot; all over again. Even Triangle actually closed the loop despite its lazy writing, whereas this movie just let it go. To those confused as to how it all began, we&#039;ll never know. We&#039;ll never know the events that occurred before he drove home with his trunk open, and we&#039;ll never know who called the police or what happened after Hector and his wife sat outside. I would be more surprised if it came from a much earlier time travel, where Clara (his wife) was involved. Because she and the girl looked a lot like each other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movie was interesting. But it&#8217;s &#8220;Triangle&#8221; all over again. Even Triangle actually closed the loop despite its lazy writing, whereas this movie just let it go. To those confused as to how it all began, we&#8217;ll never know. We&#8217;ll never know the events that occurred before he drove home with his trunk open, and we&#8217;ll never know who called the police or what happened after Hector and his wife sat outside. I would be more surprised if it came from a much earlier time travel, where Clara (his wife) was involved. Because she and the girl looked a lot like each other.</p>
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		By: KewlKat		</title>
		<link>https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2212</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2018 04:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2023&quot;&gt;Cocofang&lt;/a&gt;.

He only wraps his whole face to disguise his identity. He could have just wrapped the injured forehead but if his face was exposed, Hector 1 would have seen himself stabbing himself and that would have blown the mind of his self... or something like that. I don&#039;t know anymore. This movie turned my brain to mush.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2023">Cocofang</a>.</p>
<p>He only wraps his whole face to disguise his identity. He could have just wrapped the injured forehead but if his face was exposed, Hector 1 would have seen himself stabbing himself and that would have blown the mind of his self&#8230; or something like that. I don&#8217;t know anymore. This movie turned my brain to mush.</p>
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		By: KewlKat		</title>
		<link>https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2211</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2018 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2047&quot;&gt;Greg Abate&lt;/a&gt;.

He only wraps his whole face to disguise his identity. He could have just wrapped the injured forehead but if his face was exposed, Hector 1 would have seen himself stabbing himself and that would have blown the mind of his other self... or something like that. I don&#039;t know anymore. This movie turned my brain to mush.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2047">Greg Abate</a>.</p>
<p>He only wraps his whole face to disguise his identity. He could have just wrapped the injured forehead but if his face was exposed, Hector 1 would have seen himself stabbing himself and that would have blown the mind of his other self&#8230; or something like that. I don&#8217;t know anymore. This movie turned my brain to mush.</p>
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		By: Daniel Bryan		</title>
		<link>https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2169</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My confusion comes with the initial time travel. If I am to believe there is only one timeline and all 3 Hectors are in that timeline, then how did H1 go back in time at all? Your theory isn&#039;t very sound, and I will try to break down why that is.

Let&#039;s start from the beginning. H1 is watching out in the woods. He sees a girl undressing and isn&#039;t really sure what hes seeing. Let&#039;s assume H2/H3 don&#039;t exist yet because H1 hasnt gone back in time yet. The events he is watching is not H2, but the original attacker of the girl. So H1 goes back in time to escape from the attacker who chases him to the silo. Now H1 first travels back in time. Now as H2, he is confused, probably makes the phone call just like before, but when he drives out of the compound this is where things get tricky. He sees the same girl and slams on the breaks just like before. But in order for him to crash into the trees and force himself to become the mysterious bandaged man, H3 had to have crashed into him. But H3 wouldn&#039;t exist yet because H2 hadn&#039;t yet finished his course of events.

Here&#039;s where the confusion comes in. H2 spends all of his time doing exactly what he saw himself do as H1. In fact, you could see there was a lot of trial and error trying to get it just right to how he remembered seeing it, to scare himself to the same location that he originally would have had to run to to send himself back in time. --How would H2 originally have been able to figure out that he himself would have to lure H1 to the time machine?--How did the first H2 know what events to recreate? To him, he only saw the original attacker, not himself as the bandaged man, so the first time through would have been -- It is not instinctual! All the events he recreated from his original memory would not be the correct version of the events if the original attacker never pursued the girl. We clearly watch H2 do everything he saw himself do, not the original mystery rapist attacker.

Another way to look at it, say you start the movie at when H2 is first released from the tank. You watch and see him doing everything as he remembers seeing it, but each decision he makes will seem arbitrary and nonsensical because, as a viewer, we will have no idea why he is doing the things he was doing. Only he will remember what he saw, but what he saw as H1 is only ever shown as what he did as H2, not what the original rapist attacker did. H3 can only exist if H2 makes a mistake which wouldnt happen if H1 never went back in time in the first place.

H3 - Has H2 and H1 memories
H2 - Has H1 memories
H1 - Only has to witness events and run to the time machine (apparently in the same manner each time he time travels or else either time collapses or H1 ceases to exist?)

The way the movie is set up, there is no room for an original rapist attacker. The sequence of events would be altered once the first time travel took place and there would be way too much room for interpretation on what he is actually supposed to do to get his H1 self up to the time machine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My confusion comes with the initial time travel. If I am to believe there is only one timeline and all 3 Hectors are in that timeline, then how did H1 go back in time at all? Your theory isn&#8217;t very sound, and I will try to break down why that is.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start from the beginning. H1 is watching out in the woods. He sees a girl undressing and isn&#8217;t really sure what hes seeing. Let&#8217;s assume H2/H3 don&#8217;t exist yet because H1 hasnt gone back in time yet. The events he is watching is not H2, but the original attacker of the girl. So H1 goes back in time to escape from the attacker who chases him to the silo. Now H1 first travels back in time. Now as H2, he is confused, probably makes the phone call just like before, but when he drives out of the compound this is where things get tricky. He sees the same girl and slams on the breaks just like before. But in order for him to crash into the trees and force himself to become the mysterious bandaged man, H3 had to have crashed into him. But H3 wouldn&#8217;t exist yet because H2 hadn&#8217;t yet finished his course of events.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where the confusion comes in. H2 spends all of his time doing exactly what he saw himself do as H1. In fact, you could see there was a lot of trial and error trying to get it just right to how he remembered seeing it, to scare himself to the same location that he originally would have had to run to to send himself back in time. &#8211;How would H2 originally have been able to figure out that he himself would have to lure H1 to the time machine?&#8211;How did the first H2 know what events to recreate? To him, he only saw the original attacker, not himself as the bandaged man, so the first time through would have been &#8212; It is not instinctual! All the events he recreated from his original memory would not be the correct version of the events if the original attacker never pursued the girl. We clearly watch H2 do everything he saw himself do, not the original mystery rapist attacker.</p>
<p>Another way to look at it, say you start the movie at when H2 is first released from the tank. You watch and see him doing everything as he remembers seeing it, but each decision he makes will seem arbitrary and nonsensical because, as a viewer, we will have no idea why he is doing the things he was doing. Only he will remember what he saw, but what he saw as H1 is only ever shown as what he did as H2, not what the original rapist attacker did. H3 can only exist if H2 makes a mistake which wouldnt happen if H1 never went back in time in the first place.</p>
<p>H3 &#8211; Has H2 and H1 memories<br />
H2 &#8211; Has H1 memories<br />
H1 &#8211; Only has to witness events and run to the time machine (apparently in the same manner each time he time travels or else either time collapses or H1 ceases to exist?)</p>
<p>The way the movie is set up, there is no room for an original rapist attacker. The sequence of events would be altered once the first time travel took place and there would be way too much room for interpretation on what he is actually supposed to do to get his H1 self up to the time machine.</p>
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		By: Mike Gleim		</title>
		<link>https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2158</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2017 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2123&quot;&gt;Panda&lt;/a&gt;.

No, it&#039;s not possible. Our consciousness could only handle on &quot;person&quot; at a time, because, as Tesla already said: We don&#039;t think with our brain, our thoughts come from a higher dimension. Our brain is only a transmitter and receiver. 
In this dimension, a personality is exclusively reserved for the one it belongs too and can&#039;t be shared by three personalities.
Tesla must be correct, because all experiments with cloning animals only lead to brain cancer death of the clones, meaning that their Communication with the higher dimension fails and the brain &quot;commits suicide&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2123">Panda</a>.</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not possible. Our consciousness could only handle on &#8220;person&#8221; at a time, because, as Tesla already said: We don&#8217;t think with our brain, our thoughts come from a higher dimension. Our brain is only a transmitter and receiver.<br />
In this dimension, a personality is exclusively reserved for the one it belongs too and can&#8217;t be shared by three personalities.<br />
Tesla must be correct, because all experiments with cloning animals only lead to brain cancer death of the clones, meaning that their Communication with the higher dimension fails and the brain &#8220;commits suicide&#8221;</p>
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		By: Panda		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2017 12:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One question: is this possible in real life?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question: is this possible in real life?</p>
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		By: Ventus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ventus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2017 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After Hector 3 runs Hector 2 off the road, the girl and Hector 3 hide from Hector 2, then go to Hector&#039;s house. But if she is with Hector 3 that whole time, she can&#039;t be present for Hector 1 to see in the first place, so the train of events can&#039;t take place for this (new) Hector 1.  Therefore, where is this Hector 1 when Hector 3 and the girl arrive at his house?  The crime is no longer perfect as there are now two independent Hectors in the same timeline/universe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Hector 3 runs Hector 2 off the road, the girl and Hector 3 hide from Hector 2, then go to Hector&#8217;s house. But if she is with Hector 3 that whole time, she can&#8217;t be present for Hector 1 to see in the first place, so the train of events can&#8217;t take place for this (new) Hector 1.  Therefore, where is this Hector 1 when Hector 3 and the girl arrive at his house?  The crime is no longer perfect as there are now two independent Hectors in the same timeline/universe.</p>
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		By: Abhishek Gupta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2017 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One explanation please..Hector 2 got the wireless in his house which he later threw to find out the battery of the machine? Why does h2 throw it, while Hector 3 never collect the wireless from the same throwing place?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One explanation please..Hector 2 got the wireless in his house which he later threw to find out the battery of the machine? Why does h2 throw it, while Hector 3 never collect the wireless from the same throwing place?</p>
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		By: strumstrum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2017 06:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2023&quot;&gt;Cocofang&lt;/a&gt;.

If he doesn&#039;t stab himself then he doesn&#039;t go back in time, and if he doesn&#039;t go back in time then (at best) Hector 3 ceases to exist or (at worst) the universe collapses into itself due to a time paradox.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.astronomytrek.com/timecrimes-2007-explained/#comment-2023">Cocofang</a>.</p>
<p>If he doesn&#8217;t stab himself then he doesn&#8217;t go back in time, and if he doesn&#8217;t go back in time then (at best) Hector 3 ceases to exist or (at worst) the universe collapses into itself due to a time paradox.</p>
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